CONVERSATIONS WITH BILLY WILDER: Film’s Fearless Social Satirist Liked It Hot
“No actor can act better than the audience can imagine.” 〜Billy Wilder
By Gregory N. Joseph
BILLY WILDER, the monumentally gifted writer, director and legendary Hollywood wit, film’s greatest social satirist in whom critics found traces of Mark Twain, Bertolt Brecht, Erich von Stroheim and Ernst Lubitsch, the movies’ ultimate outsider despite being one of its most respected and honored insiders, was 77 years old when I visited him in April 1984 at his elegantly disheveled second-floor cubbyhole of an office in the famous Writers and Artists Building on the chic, bustling corner of South Santa Monica Boulevard and Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.
The recent awards season, highlighted by films such as the Academy Award-winning “Anora,” “Emilia Perez,” “The Brutalist,” “The Substance,” “Conclave,” “Dune: Part II” and “Wicked,” are testament to how prescient he was about the direction in which the movies were heading, as he discussed film censorship, the depiction of violence and sex on the screen, reliance on remakes at the expense of risk and innovation, how studios were spending more time worrying about business than art, and not giving audiences the credit they deserved.
After our meeting at his office for a profile I was writing, I was to serve as moderator of “An Afternoon with Billy Wilder” sponsored by the San Diego Film Society later that month at the city’s historic downtown Spreckels Theatre, where we were joined onstage by I.A.L Diamond, his second writing partner following Charles Brackett.
The theatre’s history was palpable, an especially appropriate venue for welcoming Wilder. Promoted as “the first modern commercial playhouse west of the Mississippi” with one of the largest stages ever constructed when it was built in 1912 for philanthropist John D. Spreckels to mark the opening of the Panama Canal, its Baroque-style auditorium had 1,915 seats, a number chosen to correspond with the Panama-California Exposition year, 1915. The theatre had hosted the superstars of its day, performers like Enrico Caruso, John Barrymore, Al Jolson and Will Rogers, before being converted to a movie house in 1931. Now it was jam-packed for Wilder. The audience was keenly aware of this puckish genius, celebrated as much for his unbridled wit as his landmark movies. They hung on his every word as he shared anecdote after fascinating anecdote punctuated by brusque asides that transfixed the audiences, lightning-fast verbal tsunamis that never failed to elicit prodigious gasps and surprised guffaws, rocking that grand old building to its foundation. I won’t lie: It was a challenge keeping up with him. At times like being an unsuspecting passenger in a demolition derby without a seatbelt. But what a ride.
Four years earlier, in 1980, Diamond and Wilder had been given the Writers Guild of America’s Laurel Award for career achievement in screenwriting — Wilder had previously received the Laurel Award in 1957 for his screenwriting partnership with Brackett.
Two years after our meeting, in 1986, Wilder would be awarded the American Film Institute’s Life Achievement Award, then in 1988 came the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award, followed by Kennedy Center honors in 1990 and the National Medal of Arts in 1993.
In all, he won six Oscars, three of them for “The Apartment” — the first time anyone had won as producer, director and screenwriter on the same film.
He directed 14 different actors in Oscar-nominated performances.
The AFI has ranked four of Wilder’s works among the top 100 American films of the 20th century: “Sunset Boulevard” (№12), “Some Like It Hot” (№14), “Double Indemnity” (№38) and “The Apartment” (№93). For the tenth anniversary edition of their list, the AFI moved “Sunset Blvd” to 16, “Some Like it Hot” to 22, “Double Indemnity” to 29, and “The Apartment” to 80.
With Woody Allen and the Marx Brothers, he shares the most number of films on AFI’s 100 funniest American films list with five films written, and owns the top spot with “Some Like It Hot.”
In 1989, two of his films, “Sunset Boulevard” and “Some Like It Hot,” were among the first 25 motion pictures selected by the Library of Congress for the National Film Registry, deemed “culturally, historically or aesthetically significant” and worthy of preservation. As of 2019, seven of his films graced the National Film Registry.
In 2022, Variety listed three of Wilder’s films among the 100 greatest ever made: “The Apartment” at №23, “Double Indemnity” at №29, and “Some Like It Hot” at №39.
Recently, yet another revival of a musical stage version of “Sunset Boulevard” opened on Broadway (the first time was in 1993), an Andrew Lloyd Webber take with pop vocalist Nicole Scherzinger following the likes of Glenn Close and Patti LuPone in the lead role of the dark, dangerous has-been silent-film actress Norma Desmond fixated on making a comeback at any cost, a part originated on screen by real-life silent-film megastar Gloria Swanson for whom the film ironically represented a stunning comeback of her own (her line “Mr. DeMille, I’m ready for my closeup” is probably the most-remembered piece of dialogue of Swanson’s career, ” etched in cinema history and a surefire bet to be included in every classic-film retrospective).
Our “An Afternoon with Billy Wilder” was intended to be part of a 25th anniversary celebration being held in San Diego feting his classic 1959 screwball comedy, “Some Like It Hot,” which was partially shot in the area, a moment the town still, all these years later, points to with great pride.
The film’s unlikely plot revolves around two musicians (played by Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis) during the Prohibition era who disguise themselves as women and join an all-female band to escape from the mafia after stumbling across a gangland shooting (inspired by the infamous Saint Valentine’s Day Massacre). Along the way, in gender-bending turns for the ages, they become enamored of the band’s luscious singer — and should we say, ukulele player — portrayed by none other than Marilyn Monroe, in one of her best comedic performances, high satire at its best with Monroe out-Monroe-ing herself. The band’s train ride from Chicago to Miami with Lemmon-Curtis-Monroe aboard in all their splendor is itself worth the price of admission (no wonder this film is said to have helped usher the industry’s creaky Production Code out the door).
Wilder co-wrote the screenplay with Diamond. It was based on a screenplay by Robert Thoeren and Michael Logan from the 1935 French Film “Fanfare of Love.”
San Diego’s claim to fame came when the Hotel del Coronado, an iconic wooden, red-roofed Victorian beachfront hotel and resort in the city of Coronado across the bay with a glamorous reputation of its own, stood in for Miami in the story.
Opened in 1888, the “Hotel del,” as its known to locals, has been revered in books and movies and boasts a guest list featuring some of the most famous people on the planet, including presidents, royalty and a wide swatch of celebrities.
Now, during our special weekend, locals were rolling out the red carpet in an effort to fondly recall one of the most glittering moments in the hotel’s, and San Diego’s, histories.
The head of the San Diego Film Society and I anxiously trekked to Wilder’s Beverly Hills office in hopes of convincing him to take part. If he agreed, he would be the crown jewel of the entire celebration, the hands-down star attraction.
“I von’t have to dance vit the mayor’s mudder and all of that (bleep), will I — God, der von’t be speeches, vill der?” asked Wilder, a tough dervish in owl-shaped glasses, stylish beige sweater and brown slacks, as he chewed, as ever, on an eternal cigar stub as he spoke.
Once assured the mayor’s mother and daughter would be nowhere in sight and that there would be only discussion of filmmaking, he relaxed, carefully sliding a new cigar from the glass jar on his desk and revealing a fascinating side of himself, part professor, part avuncular drinking companion and that true anomaly, a great moviemaker who could slice and dice Hollywood, corporate America and even the Mob, and keep his job.
This was no ordinary filmmaker who feared rocking the boat and splashing invective on whomever might be in it.
Samuel Wilder was born on June 22, 1906, to Polish Jews in Sucha Beskidzka, a small town which at the time was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He was nicknamed “Billie” by his mother, who was reportedly inspired by the Buffalo Bill Wild West Shows she saw during a brief stay in New York, and he changed the spelling to “Billy” upon his arrival in America.
Billy’s parents owned a cake shop in Sucha’s train station that spun off into a chain of railroad cafes. His father moved the family to Krakow to accept a job managing a hotel, then to Vienna. He died when Billy was 22 years old, and Billy, uninterested in following the family business or attending the University of Vienna, became a journalist.
In 1926, Wilder met and interviewed Paul Whiteman, an immensely popular American band leader of the day, who liked the young writer enough that he took him with the band to Berlin, where Wilder made more contacts in entertainment.
At first working as a stringer writing crime and sports articles, Wilder next landed a regular job with a Berlin tabloid. He then became interested in the movies (his older brother was a filmmaker) and found work as a screenwriter, from 1929 to 1933 producing a dozen short German films.
When Hitler rose to power, he moved to Paris and made his directorial debut with the 1934 film “Mauvaise Graine” (Wilder’s mother, grandmother and stepfather perished in the Holocaust). He relocated to Hollywood in 1933 before the film’s release, and found work as a screenwriter.
His first real success came with “Ninotchka,” a romantic comedy starring Greta Garbo made in collaboration with fellow German immigrant Lubitsch, who was known for his elegance and refinement (not to mention his deft way of circumventing the censors with sophisticated innuendo).
Lubitsch was an enormous influence on Wilder, so much so that for years after Lubitsch’s death in 1947 at the age of 55, a sign reading “How would Lubitsch do it?” famously hung on the wall of Wilder’s office.
Using the tagline “Garbo laughs” as playful counterpoint to the actress’ prior screen persona in somber melodramas, “Ninotchka” changed the course of her career and brought Wilder his first Academy Award nomination (shared with co-writer Brackett, with whom Wilder would work from 1938 to 1950).
After this film came a string of successes for Wilder, then in 1942, he made his American directorial debut with “The Major and the Minor,” a farcical romantic comedy starring Ray Milland and Ginger Rogers (fresh off her Oscar-winning Best Actress performance in the drama “Kitty Foyle” and eager for a change of pace). It was a critical and box office success hailed for its playfulness, effervescence and style.
Wilder’s third American directorial effort, 1944’s “Double Indemnity,” was something diametrically different: a dark, deadly serious crime film noir. Co-written by Wilder and novelist Raymond Chandler, a founder of the hard-boiled-detective literary movement, it starred Fred MacMurray as an insurance salesman and Barbara Stanwyck as a conniving wife who methodically plan (and carry out) her husband’s murder.
A landmark in the film noir genre, establishing a number of cinematic conventions now taken for granted, it was extremely bold for its day and an enormous box office hit. It earned seven Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Director, Screenplay and Actress, and is now considered a classic. Interestingly, the contentious writing collaboration between Wilder and the uber-idiosyncratic Chandler, in which they battled Hollywood censors and frequently each other to bring the controversial story to the screen, spawned a 2014 off-Broadway comedy, “Billy and Ray.” (The play, directed by Garry Marshall — who created the television sitcom “Happy Days” and directed films such as “Pretty Woman” and “The Princess Diaries” — was widely panned.)
Then, in 1945, Wilder, with characteristic boldness, changed course yet again. This time, he confronted a subject society all too often preferred to make light of, shrug off, or ignore altogether: alcoholism. “The Lost Weekend,” directed by Wilder from a screenplay by him and his writing partner Brackett based on Charles R. Jackson’s novel of the same name, was the first major American film to deal seriously with the subject.
Starring Milland and Jane Wyman, it was raw and hard-hitting, and a critical and box-office success. It not only shared the top prize at the first Cannes Film Festival, the Grand Prix du Festival International du Film, and won the festival’s Best Actor award for Milland, it also captured Academy Awards for Best Picture, Director, Screenplay and Actor (once again, for Milland). (In 2011, the film was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry for “its uncompromising look at the devastating effects of alcoholism” that “melded an expressionistic film-noir style with documentary realism to immerse viewers in the harrowing experience of an aspiring New York writer willing to do almost anything for a drink.”)
Wilder was now solidly part of the Hollywood firmament, known for his wit, innovation — and courage. No subject, including Hollywood itself, was off-limits.
One famous story exposing his rich vein of contempt for power and anything approaching censorship involved a private screening Paramount had arranged for “Sunset Boulevard,” the 1950 black comedy noir Wilder co-wrote and directed that exposed the dark underbelly of Hollywood that Tinseltown preferred be left unacknowledged and undiscussed.
In attendance was the feared and often loathed MGM co-founder Louis B. Mayer, who reportedly blurted to anyone within earshot after the closing credits, “You have disgraced the industry that made and fed you! You should be tarred and feathered and run out of Hollywood!”
Upon learning of the slight Wilder didn’t hesitate, searching out Mayer and offering an unmistakable response that required little interpretation: “I am Mr. Wilder, and go f*** yourself!”
When Wilder began his Hollywood ascent as a writer, he came up the hard way, initially residing in what amounted to a broom closet at the Chateau Marmont Hotel, an establishment (still) located on, appropriately enough, Sunset Boulevard (which perhaps had something to do with his 1950 black-comedy film of the same name lambasting Hollywood).
By the time of his confrontation with Mayer, he was a respected, and busy, filmmaker of the first rank. During our conversations, he lamented that Hollywood now was a different kettle of fish, and not in a good way.
“When we did films, we just did them — it was no big deal, it was no big thing to make two, three, four movies a year,” Wilder explained. “Now all of Hollywood is making 50 a year. Now you have to guarantee financing — you spend more time writing the contract than the script. I never talked about money in those days. You worked at MGM, for example, and there was all the money in the world.”
Wilder had another bone or two to pick with filmmakers of the day. He thought the Hollywood in which we now sat not only had misread, but was abusing, the concept of artistic freedom, crossing the lines of good taste and social responsibility with frequency. He also found it lacking in original product.
“I’m against any form of censorship,” he stressed, “but it’s being taken advantage of. We’ve lifted the cycle of violence. Instead of crashing a car once, we do it 114 times per film. We show everything when someone dies.
“We make pictures about people taking the law in their own hands, and if you continue to remake all the hits of yesterday, you’re standing still. What’s important in making film is what you leave to the audience’s imagination.”
Then he offered an example that he himself had used in depicting a murder, one of the most famously wrenching such scenes ever committed to celluloid — achieved without showing a thing.
“In ‘Double Indemnity,’” he said, “I focused on Barbara Stanwyck’s face while Fred MacMurray is in the back seat of her car strangling her husband. I will tell you it’s better to film the back of a person’s head when some human crisis is taking place. Let the audience think what is going on — they know, they know. No actor can act better than the audience can imagine.”
Wilder believed filmmakers would do well to borrow a page from his mentor Lubitsch, with whom he collaborated not only on Garbo’s “Ninotchka” but also “Bluebeard’s Eighth Wife,” the latter a romantic comedy starring Gary Cooper and Claudette Colbert. He co-authored the scripts for both.
“Lubitsch was the first filmmaker who could subtly make a point — he didn’t hit you over the head with something,” Wilder said, puffing on his cigar with the assured elegance of a Hollywood legend who had paid the price.
“He supposed the audience was intelligent, and everything he did was innuendo. He played a game with the audience. They loved that and played along with him. His movies were more fun and more erotic than all the movies with nudity now.”
After I finished my visit with Wilder, I drove to the nearby office of “Some Like it Hot” co-star Lemmon, an Academy Award-winning actor who, with absolutely no prompting at all, not only described but hilariously re-created the serendipitous moment in 1958 that he ran into Wilder and wound up with a role in the film.
“I was having dinner with my future wife (actress Felicia Farr) at Dominick’s (a popular West Hollywood restaurant and celebrity haunt) one Sunday evening and Billy happened to be there,” Lemmon recounted while seated behind his desk, effortlessly slipping into character as the jauntiest and most skilled kind of anecdotalist, his two Oscars gleaming in the bookcase over his shoulder, the first as Best Supporting Actor for 1955’s “Mister Roberts” and the second as Best Actor for 1973’s “Save the Tiger” — making him the first person to pull off victories in both categories.
Considered one of the great tragicomic performers of his era with enormous range, Lemmon starred in more than 60 films and was nominated for an Academy Award a stunning eight times, winning twice. Two of those nominations, as Best Actor, came in films directed by Wilder — “Some Like It Hot” and “The Apartment.”
Lemmon’s storytelling was the highest form of performance art, and in this instance, it was clearly dedicated to a friend for whom he palpably had great respect. He relished telling of that chance meeting that led to “Some Like It Hot,” an account he would repeat, word for word, six year later to a packed auditorium and a television audience numbering in the millions in beginning his introduction of Wilder when the director received Kennedy Center honors.
“I didn’t know Billy very well then,” Lemmon continued to me, warming to the occasion as if an unseen director had shouted “Action!” He went on: “I had seen him at various functions and said hello, that was about all, but was very impressed with his work.
“Well, Billy happened to be there at the same restaurant and saw me and asked me to stop by his table on the way out, that he had something to ask me. So I drop by his table, and Billy says in that thick German accent of his, ‘Gunna do dis film about two guys who dress up as women and join an all-girls band to hide out because dey’ve seen da St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. You’d be von of the two guys in drag — vanna do it?’ In 20 seconds, I had the whole plot!
“I’d never taken a picture without seeing a script first, but I did then. When I got the script a week or so later, it was just a beautiful thing. Just perfect.”
It was a momentous decision for Lemmon.
In all, “Some Like it Hot” was nominated for six Academy Awards: for Lemmon, Wilder (as both director and screenwriter, the latter with Diamond), cinematography, art direction and costume design, winning for the latter. It’s now considered a classic.
Lemmon ultimately worked on seven films with Wilder over the course of 32 years in what is now regarded as one of the screen’s most productive and memorable actor-director collaborations. It’s not an exaggeration to say that the chance restaurant encounter with Wilder changed the trajectory of Lemmon’s career.
Later, onstage with me, Wilder lived up to his reputation as one of Hollywood’s great raconteurs and piercing wits. At one point during our onstage chat, he gently if firmly interrupted me, addressing me with the tone of a favorite but affectionally annoyed uncle who utters the truth so you won’t further embarrass yourself: “By da vay — yer French is terrible!” (Duly noted. And full disclosure: It is.)
One of the anecdotes Wilder told (Lemmon’s imitation of the great director was spot on) involved his idea in “The Seven Year Itch” to have Marilyn Monroe’s skirt blown up by a gust of air from a New York street grating, a scene that transcended Hollywood and become a defining image of American culture in the 1950s.
Monroe’s then-husband, baseball great Joe DiMaggio, Wilder remembered, was on the set at the time the scene was shot.
I inquired as to what DiMaggio’s reaction was. “Vat vould yur reaction be if I blew up yer wife’s skirt?” Wilder shot back. DiMaggio, he confided, was infuriated and “slapped Marilyn around that night at home.”
That filming took place on Sept. 15, 1954. Monroe and DMaggio divorced just weeks later, in October. Their marriage had lasted all of 274 days.
Wilder was surprisingly protective of Monroe, even as he described having problems working around her infamous tardiness and myriad psychological issues to produce an acceptable performance.
“Tony Curtis told me kissing Monroe was like kissing Hitler — dat vasn’t very nice, I didn’t think,” Wilder said quietly, his voice trailing off. (Monroe died in 1962 of a barbiturate overdose. Whether it was suicide, unintentional — or something more sinister — remains a subject of debate. Conspiracy theories abound.)
After our stage presentation concluded, dignitaries and fans jammed the theatre’s green room.
Much to my surprise, the legendary filmmaker wended his way through the crowd and sought me out as I stood in a corner talking to one of the event’s organizers. I had my back turned, and Wilder tapped me politely on the shoulder. As I swiveled around slowly and recognized him, he leaned forward on his cane, looked at me through trademark thick glasses that magnified his eyes into warm, penetrating saucers, and chirped brightly, “Dat vas fun! Let’s do it again some day!” I wish I had taken him up on it.
Billy Wilder died a generation later, on March 27, 2002. He was 95.
Fittingly enough, a frisky, Wilderesque quip is etched just below his name on the square, dark green marble tombstone that marks his final resting place at Westwood Village Memorial Park in Los Angeles.
You can almost hear the legendary filmmaker’s thick dialect, the one his friend and sometime muse Jack Lemmon was so fond of good-naturedly mimicking, as he uttered the words: “I’m a writer — but then, nobody’s perfect.”
It echoes, of course, the famous line delivered with cheerful gusto by Joe E. Brown at the conclusion of “Some Like it Hot” after Jack Lemmon’s frantic character in drag reveals he’s really a man, a storied denouement widely regarded as one of the finest payoff moments in all of movie history.
Billy Wilder went out in style. Close to perfection.