CONVERSATION WITH JANET LEIGH: On the Difference Between Working for Welles and Hitchcock, and Not Blinking in the ‘Psycho’ Shower

Greg Joseph
7 min readMay 19, 2019

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“To me, ‘Psycho’ was a big comedy. Had to be.” — Alfred Hitchcock

“I don’t believe in learning from other peoples’ pictures. I think you should learn from your own interior vision of things and discover, as I say, innocently, as though there had never been anybody.” — Orson Welles

By Gregory N. Joseph

JANET LEIGH worked for two of the most legendary directors in the history of Hollywood, Alfred Hitchcock and Orson Welles. There was a difference. Oh, was there a difference.

Born Jeanette Helen Morrison on July 6, 1927 — an actress, singer, dancer, and later author, known professsionally as Janet Leigh — she was raised in Stockton, Calif., by working-class parents and discovered at the age of 18 by Oscar-winning Golden Age actress Norma Shearer, who had been married to the legendary boy-wonder “last tycoon” producer Irving Thalberg at the time of his untimely death, and helped Leigh win a contract at his former studio, MGM.

By any yardstick, Leigh appeared in an eclectic group of films that underscored an unusually impressive acting range, from “Little Women” (1949), “Scaramouche” (1952), “The Naked Spur” (1953) and “The Manchurian Candidate” (1962), to “Bye Bye Birdie” (1963).

But it was her work for Hitchcock, especially, that drew notice, specifically in his 1960 film, “Psycho,” which turned out not only to be his most successful at the box office, but a cinematic benchmark defining an era and its evolving culture, and the standard against which thrillers are still measured.

For Leigh, it was the high-water mark of her acting career. She won a Golden Globe as Best Supporting Actress and was nominated for an Academy Award in the same category for her performance in the film, with the scene in which her character is bludgeoned to death in the shower becoming one of the most famous — and analyzed — in motion picture history. The film represented a seismic turning point in the horror genre.

“Psycho,” described as “a psychological horror thriller,” has a screenplay written by Joseph Stefano based on a novel of the same name by Robert Bloch, and follows the path of fleeing embezzler Marion Crane (Leigh) who encounters depraved motel proprieter Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins, in his career-defining role), with a detective, Marion’s lover, and her sister subsequently investigating her disappearance.

In 1992, the Library of Congress designated it as “culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant” in choosing it for preservation in the U.S. National Film Registry.

In 2022, Variety ranked it as the greatest film ever made, stating, “There’s hardly a frame of Alfred Hitchcock’s cataclysmic slasher masterpiece that isn’t iconic. If you don’t believe us, consider the following: Eyes. Holes. Birds. Drains. Windshield wipers. A shower. A torso. A knife. ‘Blood, blood!’ A Victorian stairway. Mother in her rocking chair. For decades, ‘Psycho’ enjoyed such a cosmic pop-cultural infamy that, in a funny way, its status as a work of art got overshadowed. Hailing it as Hitchcock’s greatest movie — let alone the greatest movie ever made — wouldn’t have seemed quite respectable. Yet there’s a reason that every moment in ‘Psycho’ is iconic, and that Anthony Perkins and Janet Leigh, as Norman Bates and Marion Crane, became fixed in our imaginations like figures out of a dream …”

“Touch of Evil,” a 1958 film noir written and directed by Orson Welles with a screenplay loosely based on Whit Masterson’s novel “Badge of Evil,” centers on a murder investigation on the U.S.-Mexican border involving a Mexican special prosecutor (Charlton Heston) on his honeymoon with his American wife (Leigh). They encounter a corpulent, recovered-alcoholic veteran police captain (Welles) with a penchant for bending the rules and a gaggle of suspicious, dangerous characters as they try to untangle who placed a time bomb inside a vehicle killing a man and his stripper girlfriend.

In post-production, Welles and Universal Pictures officials had creative differences about the film, and Welles was forced out, with Universal-International incorporating editing revisions that changed its construction considerably, making it more conventional, even requiring some re-shoots (which Heston in particular disliked and resisted out of respect for Welles). Welles responded to the editing by writing a 58-page memo explaining his creative intent and asking that the film be restored accordingly, which eventually it was, in 1998, years after his death in 1985 at the age of 70. Although not a true “director’s cut,” the re-edited version was hailed and received awards from the New York Film Critics Circle, the Los Angeles Film Critics Association and the National Society of Film Critics.

Even so, the picture, panned in its initial form by critics, was embraced by European audiences and won top prizes at the 1958 Brussels World Film Festival. Its reputation began growing in the 1970s and now the film is looked upon not only as one of Welles’ finest screen efforts but one of the best noir films of the classic era. In 1993, it also was selected for preservation by the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress.

Leigh, in a 1984 interview during which she was publicizing her autobiography, “There Really Was a Hollywood,” used her experience filming “Psycho” to draw a distinction between the two legendary directors.

“Welles was very impromptu — like he would be doing an improvisation,” she said. “He’d go and see something and say, ‘Oh, I love that shot — let’s use it,’ and change the shot so he could utilize the clouds or whatever it was he saw.

“Whereas with Mr. Hitchcock (who died in 1980 at the age of 80), everything was absolutely delineated before the picture ever started. He had Saul Bass — who did the title design for ‘Psycho’ and ‘Man with the Golden Arm’ — do a storyboard for every single angle in the shower scene. Saul did the montage on the storyboard and that was all set before the picture ever started. There was no deviation from that whatsoever.”

(Donald Spoto, in his book, “The Dark Side of Genius: The Life of Alfred Hitchcock,” maintains that Hitckcock made two additions to the “Psycho” story board: of a knife entering the woman’s abdomen — actually a fast-motion reverse shot — and blood and water running down the shower drain.)

Leigh insisted that working for Hitchcock — the storied director of such film classics as “Notorious,” “Suspicion,” “Spellbound” and “Rear Window” who once famously said, “I never said actors are cattle; what I said was all actors should be treated like cattle” — was a surprisingly relaxing experience.

He told her he would not give her direction during filming unless she was trying to take more than her share of “the acting pie” or not enough, or if she was “having trouble motivating the necessary timed motion,” recalled Leigh.

She said that her most difficult moment in the film was a long closeup of her open “dead” eye, and — as it turned out — keeping her composure when the flesh-colored moleskin she was wearing over her breasts came off in the steam of the shower water.

“It was out of view of the camera, but maybe not of everyone else, so I had a decision to make,” she said. “Did I spoil the difficult shot and move and be modest, or did I hold still? I decided not to spoil the shot.”

She said she received her best acting advice from co-star Van Johnson in her very first film, 1947’s “The Romance of Rosy Ridge.”

“In one scene, I got between him and the camera, and clocked him,” she recalled. “They cut and I felt so badly. Van took me aside and said, ‘Don’t worry about where the camera is, don’t worry about where the lights are. The camera will find you.’

“In other words, if you start thinking about which lights are right or where the camera is, if you start thinking about all of that, you can’t concentrate on what you’re saying. To this day, I can’t tell you what a key light is.”

Janet Leigh passed away at age 77 on Oct. 4, 2004.

Nearly two decades later, in 2023, actress Jamie Lee Curtis, Leigh’s daughter by her former husband, the 1950s screen icon Tony Curtis, won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her performance in the Best Picture-winning film “Everything Everywhere All At Once.”

In her acceptance speech, Jamie Lee mentioned that many years before, both of her parents had been movie stars and had been nominated for Oscars too.

Janet Leigh as the doomed Marion Crane in Alfred Hitchcock’s thriller “Psycho” (1960), a performance that earned her a Golden Globe Award as Best Supporting Actress and an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. The film, which brought four Oscar nominations in all, including one for Hitchcock as Best Director, was famously shot in black and white on a tight budget using the crew of his television series. It opened to mixed reviews, but audiences flocked to see it; it’s since been recognized by critics as one of Hitchcock’s best works on multiple fronts, from direction to cinematography to score to performances, and has been included on many “best of all time” lists. Unusually frank for its time, the film is seen as a precursor of slasher films, spawning three sequels, a remake, a made-for-TV spin-off and a prequel TV series set in modern times. In 1992, the Library of Congress designated it as “culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant” in choosing it for preservation in the U.S. National Film Registry.
Alfred Hitchcock directs Janet Leigh in the iconic shower scene of “Psycho” (1960).
Orson Welles and Charlton Heston in serious discussion between takes on the set of the film noir “Touch of Evil” (1958) as co-star Janet Leigh looks on. When Heston signed for the starring role, he asked that Welles direct, but when Welles clashed with Universal-International officials, he was forced out. UI subsequently changed the editing style and ordered re-shoots, famously bringing a 58-page memo from Welles in which he described the film he had in mind. Upon its release, the film was not a critical success in the U.S., but was hailed by European audiences. Eventually its reputation grew over the years to the point that it is now considered one of Welles’ finest works. In 1993, it was chosen for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being “culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant.” Five years after that, in 1998 — 13 years after Welles’ death in 1985 at the age of 70 — “Touch of Evil” was re-edited according to Welles’ memo.
My interview with Janet Leigh upon the release of her autobiography, “There Really Was a Hollywood,” which became a New York Times bestseller.
Note to me from Janet Leigh about photos to run with my article.
Janet Leigh, then 23 years old, graces the June 25, 1951, cover of Life magazine.
Janet Leigh with her then-husband, actor Tony Curtis, at the 1953 Academy Awards. Seventy years later, in 2023, their daughter Jamie Lee Curtis won an Oscar as Best Supporting Actress for her performance in the Best Picture winner “Everything Everywhere All at Once.” Leigh and Curtis were each nominated for an Academy Award over the course of their respective careers, but neither won. The couple divorced in 1962. Leigh died in 2004 at age 77, Curtis in 2010 at 85.
From left: Janet Leigh, her daughter Jamie Lee Curtis, Jamie’s daughter Annie, and Jamie’s sister Kelly Curtis (1981).
The final resting place of Janet Leigh in Westwood Village Memorial Park, Los Angeles.

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Greg Joseph

Journalist, Hollywood biographer, actor (SAG-AFTRA), former TV critic (TCA). Turner Classic Movies 25th anniversary Guest Programmer. U of Missouri alum.